{"id":242,"date":"2021-04-21T16:43:00","date_gmt":"2021-04-21T14:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jenefumeplus.org\/jnfp\/?p=242"},"modified":"2021-04-23T15:03:40","modified_gmt":"2021-04-23T13:03:40","slug":"c-la-nicotine-dans-la-vape","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jenefumeplus.org\/jnfp\/index.php\/2021\/04\/21\/c-la-nicotine-dans-la-vape\/","title":{"rendered":"09.11.C La nicotine dans la vape"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jenefumeplus.org\/jnfp\/index.php\/2021\/04\/19\/le-sachiez-vous\/\">Retour au sommaire<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size\">La nicotine ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La nicotine est un <a href=\"https:\/\/www.larousse.fr\/dictionnaires\/francais\/alcalo%C3%AFde\/2093\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">alcalo\u00efde<\/a> pr\u00e9sent surtout dans les feuilles de tabac, mais on la trouve aussi en plus faible quantit\u00e9 dans les tomates et les aubergines\u2026 mais sans risque de devenir addict \u00e0 la ratatouille.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size\">Mauvaise r\u00e9putation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Elle doit peut \u00eatre sa mauvaise r\u00e9putation de par son utilisation depuis le XVI <sup>\u00e8me <\/sup>si\u00e8cle comme composant d\u2019insecticides (aujourd\u2019hui interdits en France).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais c\u2019est surtout depuis le rapport du Surgeon General de la FDA (Food &amp; Drug Administration aux USA) en <a href=\"https:\/\/jamanetwork.com\/journals\/jama\/article-abstract\/371944\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">1988<\/a>, qu\u2019on l\u2019accuse \u00e0 tort de tous les maux. Pourtant nous savons depuis longtemps qu\u2019elle n\u2019est responsable ni des maladies, ni des d\u00e9c\u00e8s imputables au tabac fum\u00e9. La FDA tout comme les autres instances de sant\u00e9 publique ont d\u2019ailleurs chang\u00e9 leur fusil d\u2019\u00e9paule lors de l\u2019arriv\u00e9e sur le march\u00e9 des substituts nicotiniques.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Mais les rumeurs anciennes ont la vie dure et de nouveau apparaissent des gros titres incriminant la nicotine\u2026<br>Or si la nicotine est effectivement un produit psychoactif, consomm\u00e9e seule elle n\u2019induit pas de d\u00e9pendance dans les recherches effectu\u00e9es, contrairement aux autres produits psychotropes. Il semble donc raisonnable de penser que c\u2019est par l\u2019action de combustion et d\u2019ajout d\u2019additifs dans le tabac (IMAO, ammoniaque\u2026) que nous devenons d\u00e9pendants non pas \u00e0 la nicotine mais au tabac fum\u00e9. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jneurosci.org\/content\/29\/4\/987\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lien<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size\">Fabrication<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pardon d\u2019avance aux chimistes, il ne s\u2019agit pas ici de faire un cours de chimie&nbsp;\ud83d\ude09&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>La nicotine est principalement extraite des feuilles de tabac (freebase)<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Plusieurs op\u00e9rations sont n\u00e9cessaires pour obtenir cette nicotine, d\u2019abord l\u2019extraction avec un solvant type soude, puis la purification pour obtenir le grade pharmaceutique. Cette nicotine une fois purifi\u00e9e a un <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dictionnaire-medical.fr\/definitions\/534-ph\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">PH<\/a> faiblement basique aux alentours de 8, ce qui provoque le fameux \u00ab&nbsp;hit&nbsp;\u00bb en gorge. C\u2019est cette nicotine que l\u2019on retrouve dans les liquides pour la vape, mais aussi dans les substituts nicotiniques. <em>C\u2019est la m\u00eame nicotine&nbsp;!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>La nicotine de synth\u00e8se, fabriqu\u00e9e en laboratoire<\/strong><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Des recherches ont amen\u00e9 certains laboratoires \u00e0 cr\u00e9er de la nicotine de synth\u00e8se afin d\u2019\u00e9viter de l\u2019extraire de la plante de tabac. Pour l\u2019instant ce produit n\u2019est pas destin\u00e9 aux consommateurs et bien que la nicotine produite soit identique dans sa composition \u00e0 la nicotine, son sch\u00e9ma mol\u00e9culaire est invers\u00e9 (comme quand on se regarde dans un miroir). Certains fabricants ont annonc\u00e9 une prochaine production de liquides pour la vape avec cette nicotine (HKHANGSEN par exemple ou encore NEXTGENLABS). Mais faute d\u2019\u00e9tude \u00e0 notre connaissance, il est difficile de savoir si les effets seront les m\u00eames que la nicotine extraite, ou encore si elle permettra d\u2019\u00e9viter les l\u00e9gislations applicables aux produits d\u00e9riv\u00e9s du tabac.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>La nicotine en \u00ab&nbsp;sel&nbsp;\u00bb, freebase + acide<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Derniers arriv\u00e9s sur le march\u00e9, les \u00ab&nbsp;sels&nbsp;\u00bb de nicotine font beaucoup parler d\u2019eux, cr\u00e9ant par la m\u00eame beaucoup de fausses rumeurs. Cette nicotine, car il s\u2019agit bien de la m\u00eame mol\u00e9cule, est associ\u00e9e \u00e0 un acide pour obtenir une formulation faiblement acide (PH entre 5 et 6). L\u2019op\u00e9ration peut se faire avec&nbsp;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>un acide endog\u00e8ne (l\u2019acide lactique, ou l\u2019acide l\u00e9vulinique \u2026)&nbsp;<\/li><li>un acide exog\u00e8ne comme l\u2019acide benzo\u00efque&nbsp;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Suivant le processus on obtiendra alors soit un mono-sel, soit un di-sel mais dans ce cas il restera des traces d\u2019acide ou de nicotine freebase libres. C\u2019est la raison pour laquelle on pr\u00e9f\u00e8rera dans tous les cas une formulation \u00e0 base d\u2019acide endog\u00e8ne en \u00e9vitant les formulations \u00e0 base de benzoates, en particulier pour les personnes souffrant d\u2019affections respiratoires. Comme l\u2019information n\u2019est que trop rarement pr\u00e9sente sur la fiche produit ou l\u2019\u00e9tiquette de votre flacon, n\u2019h\u00e9sitez pas \u00e0 poser la question au fabricant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size\">Informations utiles \u00e0 conna\u00eetre<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>20 mg\/ml en sel ou en freebase, \u00e7a reste 20mg\/ml pour l\u2019organisme, il n\u2019y aura pas d\u2019effet sup\u00e9rieur en sel, la mol\u00e9cule reste la m\u00eame<\/li><li>Suivant la formulation et l\u2019acide utilis\u00e9, la fixation de la nicotine sera l\u00e9g\u00e8rement diff\u00e9rente mais quasiment imperceptible pour l\u2019utilisateur.<\/li><li>Si vous lisez ici ou l\u00e0 un effet super rapide ou maousse costaud dans la sensation per\u00e7ue, vous pouvez \u00eatre certains qu\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019un vapoteur qui vape habituellement avec un dosage plus faible en freebase qui vient de vaper du sel en 20 mg\/ml<\/li><li>Dans tous les cas, la nicotine n\u2019aime pas la chaleur, c\u2019est particuli\u00e8rement vrai pour les sels, on conseillera donc du mat\u00e9riel \u00e0 puissance mod\u00e9r\u00e9e et r\u00e9sistance d\u2019environ 1,5 Ohm.<\/li><li>L\u2019avantage principal du sel de nicotine c\u2019est un hit tr\u00e8s faible, utile pour les insuffisants respiratoires, ou les personnes ayant la gorge tr\u00e8s irrit\u00e9e par le tabac qui ne supporte pas un fort dosage en freebaseAttention cependant, \u00e0 cause du faible hit, \u00e0 ne pas vaper jusqu\u2019au surdosage sans s\u2019en rendre compte. Si cela arrive, pas de panique, il suffit de ne pas vaper pendant environ 30 mn pour que les sympt\u00f4mes d\u00e9sagr\u00e9ables (naus\u00e9es, maux de t\u00eate\u2026) disparaissent.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-vivid-cyan-blue-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size\">Rappel<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Si tu vapes, tu t\u2019hydrates<\/em> (en buvant environ 2 litres d\u2019eau par jour).<em>20mg\/ml en sel ou en freebase \u00e7a reste 20 mg\/ml<\/em><strong> <\/strong>(le sel a juste moins de hit)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La nicotine est un alcalo\u00efde pr\u00e9sent surtout dans les feuilles de tabac, mais on la trouve aussi en plus faible quantit\u00e9 dans les tomates et les aubergines\u2026 mais sans risque de devenir addict \u00e0 la ratatouille.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":485,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":5,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,52],"tags":[55,10],"class_list":["post-242","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-le-sachiez-vous","category-tout-sur-la-vape","tag-la-nicotine-dans-la-vape","tag-lsv-le-sachiez-vous"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>09.11.C La nicotine dans la vape - Je ne fume plus ! 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